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Patrick Boyle On Finance

Hindenburg Research takes on Carl Icahn

Patrick Boyle On Finance

Patrick Boyle

Investing, Business

4.9320 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Send us a textLegendary corporate raider and activist Carl Icahn found himself on the wrong side of a familiar battle this week when the short selling investment firm Hindenburg Research took aim at Icahn’s publicly traded holding company, alleging in a new report that Icahn Enterprises L.P. (IEP) is overstating the value of its private asset portfolio, and that its publicly traded stock units–85% of which Icahn owns–are “significantly overvalued.”Icahn’s fortune fell over 35%, from $18.3 bil...

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome. You are listening to Patrick Boyle on Finance, a podcast exploring ideas from quantitative finance, examining events occurring in markets right now and financial history to see what lessons can be taken away, including interviews with some of the most interesting people in the world of finance. To learn more about the podcast, visit onfinance.org.

0:27.5

Carl Icon has had a long career in markets, starting out as a stockbroker in 1961,

0:34.2

later becoming a risk-arboned options trader. In the 70s and 80s he was a notorious corporate

0:41.0

raider. He was accused of being an asset stripper, the worst kind of stripper, in his dealings

0:47.0

with TWA. Today he's a notorious activist investor known for forcing even the most respected CEOs to bend to his will,

0:57.2

like Apple's Tim Cook, who he pressured to return capital to investors through a share buyback

1:03.3

in 2014. Some of Icon's earliest arbitrage trades involved investing in closed-end mutual funds, a type of investment

1:13.4

company, which often trades at a discount to the value of the assets they hold. He would then

1:19.5

agitate for the fund to liquidate yielding a profit. Icon, who has spent his whole career on

1:26.1

offence, now finds himself playing defence, as another

1:30.3

activist investor, Hindenburg Research, is claiming that Icon's $18 billion market cap holding

1:37.7

company, Icon Enterprises, has a Ponzi-like economic structure that is sustained only to the extent that new money

1:47.0

coming in is willing to risk being the last holding the bag.

1:51.0

In brief, ICON is accused of using money taken in from new investors to pay out dividends

1:58.0

to old investors, and he's accused of doing this to keep the stock price

2:03.0

high, stock that he has pledged as collateral for a margin loan.

2:08.6

Hindenburg is a short-selling activist hedge fund run by Nate Anderson and earlier this year I

2:15.3

covered their allegations against Adani group.

2:18.3

Anderson is most famous for having released a video of Nicola's electric truck prototype

2:24.3

being towed up a hill in order to be pushed down to make a promotional video showing that the technology was fully operational.

2:33.3

Trevor Milton, the CEO of Nicola, ended up being convicted of fraud based partially

2:39.5

upon this evidence.

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