On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. 34 minutes after the hour America. It's the first show of the year where I'm talking

with Dr Larry on, President of Hillsdale College, about one of the great works in literature,

Homer's Iliad.

And we haven't really begun the book yet because there are a few more preliminaries, Dr.

And we went to break, you were saying, read it aloud.

And here's something I think a lot of people may stumble over. We are used to quick things now.

We are used to YouTube videos and short stories and edits on television which are quick and reading the Iliad and many of the other books

we're going to be talking about in these segments each week is not a quick thing and

it denies ourselves pleasures to force it to be so.

Yeah, and that's what's good about it, see, because like, I know somebody who, a very well educated woman

what their name but uh... you actually know her here

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