On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at podcast

at podcast.hillsdale.

EDU or wherever you get your audio and

subscribe to receive new episodes littered right to your device. That's

podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU.

Morning glory and evening grace America, it's Hugh Hewitt. Thank you so much for listening.

It's the favorite hour of the week for many people.

It's a time for the Hillsdale dialogue my weekly

conversation with Dr Larryon president of Hillsdale college or one of his

colleagues on some great work or person of the Western civilization that has fallen perhaps a little bit out of

focus that we need to bring back to the table the last couple of weeks and for the

next couple of weeks we've been talking about Winston Spencer Churchill

because it is now crucial that leaders

step forward in the mold of Churchill and I try and accomplish what he did which is

to change the course of events from where they were headed otherwise

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