On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. Good morning glory, and even Grace America.

It's you at time for our weekly Hillsdale Dialogue.

Today with Dr. Laryon, President of Hillsdale College, once a week I sit down with Dr. Arner, one of his colleagues on the faculty and staff of Hillsdale College,

you talk about one of the great works of the West.

Last week we plunged into Aristotle and we're going to stay there for a few weeks and for good reason. Dr. Arne, a good Friday to you, how are you?

I'm very well, how are you, Hugh? I'm good. Before we go back, I have a first question for you that occurred to me as I was preparing to go deeper and deeper into the ethics and it's this.

Would Aristotle have reason to the same conclusions had Plato not written what he wrote beforehand?

Well, he didn't think so, although he differed from Plato on some important things.

You know, the human understanding is

uh... decorative

what that means is we go from thing to thing

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