On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

podcast dot Hillsdale dot edu or wherever you get your audio and subscribe to

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E.D. You. Morning glory and evening, Grace America. It's you Hewitt as we coast

into the weekend on this good Friday. It is time for the latest in our

Hillsdale dialogues with the president of Hillsdale College Dr Larry

Arne after the break we're going to be returning to the history of the

Peloponnesian War but Dr. Ar, let me say happy Easter to you before we begin.

Happy Easter, Hugh.

I want to begin by asking you about the consequences in your mind of the arguments this week before the Supreme Court.

I've said on this show that marriage is the

weight-bearing wall of the West it's possible to move a weight-bearing wall it's

possible to alter it and not have the whole thing fall down but it's dangerous it looks

like we're about to do that what do you think think? Well, I don't know. I'm hoping that they will agree not to agree and not do anything about it, right?

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