On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. So it is perfectly time that I talk with Dr Larry Arran of Hillsdale College in our weekly

Hillsdale dialogue about history, specifically about the father of history.

Herodotus, Dr. Arran, welcome back back always a pleasure to talk to you.

Great to be with you. Now obviously we're going to talk about history I want to

back up and say Hillstale emphasizes a lot of history in fact right now you have a brand new online course devoted

to American history that people can go sign up at Hugh for Hillsdale as well as the

Hillsdale dialogues why bother everything is Larry Arren, everything is being reinvented. Why bother?

Well, all you have to do is read some history to find out that's not so. In fact, you can only think that if you haven't read any history

it's amazing the age I mean this thing that's going on in Rome is of course a

historic thing that has been going on for hundreds of years now, you know,

according to the doctrine of the Catholic Church, for 2,000 years since Jesus.

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