On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

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E.dew. Morning glory and evening grace America. Thanks for Guy Benson for

filling in for me today. It's time for the Hillsdale Dialogue. It's our

weekly expedition into something that is actually significant and important beyond

the week. The Hillsdale Dialogue began more than two years ago with Homer and

we have now made our way all the way forward to

Burke. All of those dialogues are collected at hue for Hillsdale.com and you can

find all of the Hillsdale online courses at Hillsdale.

E. We're pleased to have back with us today the President of Hill

College Dr Larry Arne, my friend and my teacher, and he is joined today by another

returning guest, Dr Thomas West who is the

Paul Ermine Potter and Don Tibbets Potter professor in politics at Hillsdale College

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