On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

podcast dot Hillsdale dot edu or wherever you get your audio and subscribe to

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Morning glory and evening Grace America.

It's Hugh Hewitt Broadcasting today from the Kirby Center, Hillsdale College's outpost in Capitol Hill from the Boyle Studios

overlooking the Capitol. I'm joined by Hillsdale College President Dr Larry Arne on a very eventful week, on a very eventful Friday in fact in the

nation's capital.

Dr. Arne, welcome to the Hillsdale Dialogue.

It is always a pleasure to talk to you on Friday.

How are you doing?

I'm great.

I just made a dash across the river from Reagan and you can make it from Reagan to the Kirby Center in 18 minutes I've discovered which is a very very good thing. You know that drive. So I am curious our friend Senator Cotton who joined me earlier

voted against the bill that our friend speaker Ryan negotiated and in regular order he negotiated it. What does this tell you about

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