On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at podcast

at podcast.hillsdale.

EDU or wherever you get your audio and

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. The M. Hey, it's Hugh Hewitt. I hope you're enjoying your Black Friday, whether you were trapped

going into or coming out of a shopping mall, you're trapped in the right place, which is in

our weekly Hillsdale dialogue. When I spend an hour talking about the most important issues and the most

important books and people of Western civilization with Dr Larry Arran,

President of Hillsdale College or one of his many colleagues, all of the

offerings of these dialogue series going back to January of this year, are available at Hugh for Hillsdale.com and all of the Hillsdale offerings. And many of them, you simply ought to just spend time this holiday

season going through whether it's on the founding on the progressive challenge

to the Constitution on economics or all available at hillsdale dot edu a happy day after Thanksgiving to you, Dr. On, I hope

yours was a wonderful day. And I hope you have all your shopping done by now, Hugh.

I'm not. In fact, I'm heading off to DC tomorrow night and I won't be doing any shopping until

December 21st and so I'm really going to be retro-gate but let me let me ask you

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