On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. the end the Hilsdale dialogue that I know many of you look forward to to end your work week and begin your weekend.

I am always joined by Dr Larry Aron, president of Hillsdale College or one of his many colleagues and we began this in January and we took a detour nine weeks ago and we will conclude next week after 10 weeks of talking about the epic life of Winston Churchill.

It was timely because of the crisis in which we find ourselves

right now. Today we are going to cover from the moment of breakout on the peninsula of Normandy

through the end of the war and the turning out of office of Winston Churchill.

But before we go there, Dr Arne, I am curious if you had thoughts about leadership when you

watch the President of the United States yesterday fumble obviously not in

command of what's going on and then using extra constitutional measures to try and

as Mark Stein said it play King Knut to the waters of the Obamacare

disaster.

Isn't Mark Stein good? Yeah he's very good.

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