On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

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Morning glory and evening grace, America, and Choo Hewitt.

Welcome to the Hillsdale Dialogue.

It's the last radio hour of the week week or when we replay it on a day like Thanksgiving

It could be the middle hour of the day or the first hour there I don't know but today is an important day because today we have been working for two years to get to a gathering in

Philadelphia in 1787 one that would birth out of the revolutionary war moment

an extraordinary document a document that's under a great deal of stress these days but remains an amazing silver frame.

And joining me to talk about that document and how it came to be is none other than Dr Larry

on President of Hillsdale College.

He's been my guest on most of the Hillsdale

Dialogues, not always alone, sometimes alone, sometimes not here at all. All of the

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