On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

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E.d. You. Good morning glory and evening grace America. It's you.

Welcome as you come every week to the Hillsdale Dialogue with Dr Larry on President of Hillsdale College

and me Hugh Hewitt.

And in the last many weeks and for the next couple, we are talking about Winston Churchill

at war and we are talking about it at a very timely time because of where

we find ourselves in the world but Larry Aaron I want to dive in because

yesterday I spent some time actually Wednesday I spent some time speaking with the

author of the new book Days of Fire and

the New York Times correspondent Peter Baker and George W Bush had trouble with

his generals he he couldn't quite get it right until the end with David Petraeus and they fought him and Rumsfeld fought him and Rumsfeld had trouble with the general.

How did Churchill deal with his generals?

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