On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

podcast dot Hillsdale dot edu or wherever you get your audio and subscribe to

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E.d. You. Morning glory and evening grace America, it's Hugh Hewitt. I'm not back

from vacation, but I talk with Dr Larry Arne for this the last radio hour of the week.

Last week, before the 4th of July, before we replayed the late Harry Jeffa's epic three-hour

program on the Declaration of Independence, so that we can continue on with our

Lincoln-Douglas debate series here on the Hugh for Hillsdale, Hillsdale dialogue, Hugh for Hillsdale.

Com. Dr. Arne, last 4th of July we recut, repackage to honor the late Harry Jaffa.

I don't think there's any better way to spend the 4th than listening to Harry Jaffa

talk about the declaration for three hours.

He spent his life thinking about that, Hugh, and he did know a very great deal about it.

Well that's it. I mean if you want to know the declaration you go to Harry Jaff and the crisis of a house divided but

we pick up today on the speeches that the debate between Lincoln and Douglas

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