Hi folks this is Bill Gray. I'm the Vice President of Marketing here at Hillsdale College

and I just want to take a moment to thank you for listening to this show and for being a part of our

Hillsdale College Podcast Network community.

It's listeners like you that make all of our work possible and we're so grateful for

your time and intention to be able to listen to shows like this one or other shows on the network,

and also to learn from the college in other ways through things like Imprimus and online courses.

The college does all this work, reaching and teaching millions, in order to pursue its mission,

but it's not really possible for us to do that without the support of folks like you.

And so here at Thanksgiving, I just wanted to take a moment to express my sincere gratitude for your support of the college, for its work, and for the work of freedom and liberty.

And to wish you and your family a happy Thanksgiving a blessed

Thanksgiving. I hope that you enjoy your time with your family as we go forward

at the end of this year and into 2024 I promise you we're going to continue to make content,

to teach people, to teach all who wish to learn, and I hope that as we do that,

we'll have your support in the months and years ahead thank you again and have a

wonderful Thanksgiving.

Welcome back America, it's Hugh Hewitt inside the felt way in the Relief Factor.

studio that music means it's time for the Hillsdale Dialogue.

It's our week ending conversation with either Dr. Larry Arne or Dr. Matt Spalding or one of the

terrific members of the faculty and team at Hillsdale College.

All things Hillsdale are collected at Hillsdale.

E.d. U. all of our dialogues dating back to 2013

are found at hue for Hillsdale.com.

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