On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

podcast dot Hillsdale dot edu or wherever you get your audio and subscribe to

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E.dew. Morning glory and evening grace America. It's Hugh Hewitt. It's the last

radio hour of the week. It is for many of you your favorite radio hour of the week and even in a week of

great and extraordinary news and very relevant news I might add I pause for

our Hillsdale dialogue usually as it is today with Dr Larry Arne

the president of Hillsdale College and he often has and he does today one of

his colleagues with him and joining Dr Arne today is Professor Will Morrissey who is the

William and Patricia Lamoth chair in the US Constitution and Professor of Politics at

Hillsdale College. He has been there since the year 2000.

He teaches in American politics, political theory, comparative politics.

Dr Morrissey is the author of eight books on statesmanship and political theory including

self-government, the American theme, Presidents of the Founding and Civil War, the dilemma

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