Coming soon, on the Larry Arn Show, writer and novelist Jagozi Obiyama.

The reason I don't condemn you for crushing me is that the crushing requires also elevation.

You have to see something lovely.

I think, so I know you personally and marry you very much.

And I think that's what you're doing.

You can see the loveliness in the light of the dangers to it.

I mean, you have to. You have to see beauty.

You have to see the light in darkness.

And the light only is possible because darkness exists anyway, so if not, light has no meaning.

Don't miss the conversation between Jagozi Obiyama and Hillsdale College President Larry Arn.

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Good morning, Gloria America.

Bonjour, hi, Canada.

That music means a Hillsdale dialogue is at hand.

Dr. Larry Arn is with me, president of Hillsdale College.

All things Hillsdale are collected at Hillsdale.edu.

If you become a supporter of Hillsdale, you'll get invited to a fascinating thing that they do three times a year.

They bring in a bunch of old people to mix it up with the young people.

And they have a conference on something.

And I'm always invited in the winter because no one else wants to go in the winter up in Hillsdale.

And the one time I went and I gave a talk about Washington.

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