On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

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Morning glory and evening grace in America at Hugh Hewitt the most popular hour for

many of you the week the Hillsdale Dialogue but a couple of updates

and I have got the death penalty and what will be a major story this weekend the

Wall Street Journal NBC News CNN all are reporting that members of the Amtrak train crew say they were hit by a

projectile. We don't know much beyond that. Of course the FBI is investigating

at the scene. We'll bring you breaking news updates as it occurs, but of course we're

lucky to have Dr. Larry Arne, the president of Hillsdale College about Abraham Lincoln

in the Hillsdale Dialogue. Dr. Arne, welcome a good commencement was had by all I trust?

Yeah, one of the Michael Ward who wrote that great book about CS Lewis was the speaker,

and he was not just profound, but not just morally good and not just faithful he was also witty and so but he's

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