On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

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E.d. You. Morning glory and evening grace. America, it's you here.

Thanks to Guy Benson for covering the first couple hours for me.

It is time now to commence our weekly end of the week radio hour

with a member of the faculty from Hillsdale College,

usually Dr Larry Oron.

This week though, Dr. Paul Ray is back. He is of course a

frequent visitor to our program. He's been here before on some of the classics. He's been in

Hillsdale for many years. He writes on Montesquieu. His most recent book is

soft deathitism. Actually, I think your most recent book is Montesquieu in the logic of liberty, isn't

Professor Wright? That's true. They came out four months apart though.

Well, I'm getting easily confused then, but Dr. Ray, why do you think they nominated

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