On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. Welcome back America, it's here. It's here. You're time for the Hilsdale

Dialogue and Experiment this week. Once a week I sit down with Dr Larry on

the President of Hilsdale College or one of his colleagues on the

faculty at hillsdale hillsdale dot ed u and we conduct a conversation

either about the weekend review or about one of the great works or essays of English Western heritage

and literature, but Dr. Arne has never before been awake at 730 and so we've actually

never tried this and it seems to me that we have tried 8 o'clock and we keep pushing it back and we keep turning him from the slumbers earlier until we find that he'll be broken at some point.

Dr. Arne, are you with us?

I am.

I'm taking relief factor, Hugh.

That's very good, because I'm going to plug it at the end of the segment.

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