On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

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E.dU. Morning glory and evening grace America to you. It is the last radio hour of

the week that means it's time for the Hillsdale

dialogue I end most weeks with a conversation with Dr Larry on the

president Hillsdale College or one of many of his colleagues at the Hillsdale College or perhaps many of them at one time this week it's just Dr. Arne as we are completing the second week of a two week investigation into the principles and the character of the American Republic when it was founded,

the principles on which it was founded, the character of the people who founded it.

Dr. Arne, how are you?

How are you?

Very well.

How are you here?

I'm good. Before we go there, Chuck Todd was on with me last hour and I played for him an excerpt of an interview that I had with Vice President Cheney earlier this week that I said has become ubiquitous if you'll pardon the pun

around the world and I want to play for you what the vice president

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