On the new episode of the Larry Arn Show, they'll still call it President Larry Arn.

It's down with writer and novelist Jigosi Obiyama for a one-on-one conversation.

People come to me and they say to me, you know what?

I cried reading your novels, and I say to them, you know, a tongue-in-chick.

But it's written there that it is a work of fiction.

These guys do not exist.

These situations do not exist.

So why are you crying about why are you invested in people who do not exist?

But that's because they've been passivated to believe so they've, you know, suspended

disbelief and they've become invested and they've seen humanity in this non-human.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Jigosi Obiyama right now, only available on the

Larry Arn Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College podcast network at podcast.hillsdale.edu or wherever you

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Last week we began part one on Ulysses S. Grant.

And Dr. Larry Arn, President of Hillsdale College and Professor Adam Carrington, let us through

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