Coming soon on the Larry Arn Show, theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward.

Because I had these two great passions, English and theology, and I was praying in church saying, Dear Lord Lord show me which way I should go.

The voice of the Lord came to me saying go both ways.

You can ride two horses abreast and so it has turned down.

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Eighty you, subscribe. Morning glory America, it's Hugh Hewitt. Thank you for joining me. That music means it is the last radio hour of a week full of fury and thunder and Dr Larry Arne, president of Hillsdale College

and it is time for the Hillsdale Dialogue, all of which are collected at you for Hillsdale.

com. The extraordinary thing about our archive of four

plus years of conversations that you can go back and actually see what we said about

Mr. Trump now President Trump from a year and a half ago, Dr. Arne being one of the few people in America who called it from the beginning something fundamental is afoot and it's all on tape.

But before, and good morning, Dr Arne, good to have you. Good morning, Hugh, how are you doing? I'm good, and good morning you how you doing

i'm good i gotta ask you a question though

do you ever attend gatherings of other college presidents uh... to no except for the Michigan College's Alliance and the Athletic Conference were in.

That's when I see other college presidents.

I am worried about you because after the New York Times article I am afraid that the next

time you attend said gatherings they will fall on you like Cassius and Brutus on Caesar

or Achilles on Hector or Theseus on the Minitar.

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