On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

podcast dot Hillsdale dot edu or wherever you get your audio and subscribe to

receive new episodes delivered right to your device. That's podcast dot hillsdale.

EDU. Morning glory and evening grace America. Welcome to the last hour of the

last day of the weekly Hewitt show.

It is the Hillsdale Dialogue.

And once a week we sit down and we put aside most of that which has trouble us for

the week and we focus on that which has driven the

west forward for 2,000 years and in that effort I'm joined usually by Dr Larry

Aron president of Hillsdale College and he is indeed with me today and often by one

or more of his colleagues today

Dr Ken Calvert a member of the faculty at Hillsdale College the headmaster at the

Hillsdale Academy is back as well all of last years and this year's

Hillsdale's dialogues are all available for

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