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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Friday, April 15th. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

In Philadelphia last week, Bill Clinton was speaking in support of Hillary when he began addressing

a Black Lives Matter protester about the crime bill he shepherded through Congress during his presidency.

We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals. She don't want to hear any of that. You know what

else you don't want to hear? Because of that bill, we had a 25-year low in crime, a 33 low in the murder rate,

year low murder rate, and who you think those lives were that mattered?

Whose lives were saved? That mattered. Ben Wallace Wells is here to discuss Hillary's legacy

as a 90s-era Democrat and how it's faring against the progressive surge of 2016.

Then, listening to Bill Clinton last week, I was thinking about after Baltimore and Ferguson,

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