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Explain It to Me

Hillary Clinton. Yes, that Hillary Clinton.

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Society & Culture, Education, News

4.48K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2016

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

A special presentation from the Ezra Klein Show: My interview this week is with Hillary Clinton. You may have heard of her.I won't bore you with Clinton's bio. Instead, I want to say a few words about what this interview is, as it's a bit different than the EK Show's normal fare (though I do ask her for book recommendations!).I got about 40 minutes with Hillary Clinton. I wanted to use that time to try to answer a question I've had about Clinton for years: why is the candidate I see on the campaign trail so different from the person described to me by her staff, colleagues, friends, and even foes? I wanted, in other words, to try to see what Clinton is like when she's working her way through policy and governance issues. And so that's what we talk about. Among the topics we covered are:- Extreme poverty, welfare reform, and the working poor- Is it time for more deficit spending?- Would more immigration be good for the economy?- The difficulties of free college and universal health care- What skills does a president need that campaigns don't test?- What's on her bookshelf?- Why America stopped trusting elites — and what elites should do about itIf you want more on this discussion, I also reported out a long piece on how Clinton governs — you can find it on Vox.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:11.6

Hello, Weeds listeners. I have something special for you today.

0:14.3

I have the opportunity recently to sit down with Hillary Clinton for 40 minutes.

0:18.3

This interview appears on my other podcast, the Ezra Klein Show, which I hope you are all subscribing to,

0:24.5

but also wanted to put it here because it is a very, very weedy interview.

0:28.8

What I'm trying to do in this in this conversation is get a sense of how Hillary Clinton thinks about policy,

0:33.8

who she is when she's in a policy meeting, how she reasons her way, through the kinds of issues she will face as president.

0:39.9

So you're not going to hear questions here about her emails or about Donald Trump or the outrage of the day.

0:44.7

I really wanted to focus on understanding how she thinks about how the economy works or how she thinks about how

0:52.0

health care works or how she thinks about how she's going to actually get anything done in a very, very polarized

0:57.2

age and government. I found her answers fascinating. She's a very precise, focused thinker.

1:03.6

She really knows these debates very well, but at the same time, some politicians will muse and they'll

1:08.8

ruminate and they'll go off in all different directions. She doesn't do that. She is very, she really hears what you

1:13.8

ask her and is right kind of very. It is very interesting for me to hear her reason and hear her respond in this way,

1:20.8

and I think it will be for you too. As I mentioned, I do a bunch of interviews that a lot like this one on

1:25.0

the As For Client Show, which is another fine podcast from box.com and panoply. So if you're not subscribed to that,

1:30.8

this is a great time to go and do that. I think you'll enjoy what I'm putting out there, but that said,

1:35.5

without further ado, here's how it can turn.

1:38.4

First again, thank you for being here. Absolutely. So let's start with poverty. Scholars have estimated or

1:44.8

found that the number of American families living in extreme poverty under $2 a day in cash income

1:51.0

has skyrocketed in the last 20 years. You have about 1.5 million families and 3 million children.

1:57.2

Given how many children are now in that condition, should we be following the model of countries like

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