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Hey, Hairgamer's Donovan here, producer of the Hair Game podcast. Our location, Salon

Republic in Glendale, is opening next month. So go to Salonrepublic.com or or our Lincoln bio and book a tour. You can get

dibs on your new space. Also, we have another location in Encino opening shortly, so check that out as

well. All right, let's continue our conversation with Alfredo Lewis. And we're used as artists, I think sometimes, you know, even when

you're in a salon, if you're a commission-based salon or, you know, you still have freedom,

like a different sort of, you know what I mean? It's a very different world. So I wouldn't say

it's for everyone. I would say really be sure about it before you jump in. I mean, the word that comes to mind is accountability.

There's a tremendous amount of accountability when you're in an organization, a large organization,

especially the largest in our industry like you were.

There's eyeballs everywhere. There's eyeballs on you and you're...

And there's eyeballs on you that don't want you to be heard or seen.

It's very competitive and very political.

So you could have the best idea and this is real talk.

It's like Game of Thrones in there.

Somebody that's either at your level or a little above you doesn't want your idea

being heard because it's going to make them look bad because they should have had the idea.

Like it's just a whole other world and it's just very political.

Especially like L'Oreal, I'm sure they all are. It's an extremely political arena and you have

to be really good at knowing how to play politics or else you're going to drown.

Isn't that interesting?

So you bring up something which is absolutely true, and I see it pretty regularly, that people have their little fiefdoms, and the company wants new ideas.

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