There was a conversation between President Biden and President Xi of China.

It was virtual.

It lasted three and a half hours with a break in between. It featured

three main topics. Human rights, climate change, Taiwan. All right. So she actually threatened Biden, saying, quote, the USA would be playing with fire, unquote,

if it encouraged Taiwan to seek independence, which is not what the USA is doing, but playing with fire is a threat.

So that was an interesting exchange.

Now, how these things work is they sit down,

they got big screens, and their advisors are all around, and they chat. But after 20 minutes,

the transcripts stop. Okay? They give you a little flavor, and then boom. They're out of there.

Constructive, I mean, you've got to engage Russia and China. You have to.

Even if you don't like them, you can't just be pricking them like this because that's bad for everybody.

So I've been trying to get this next guest on for a while. He's a very busy guy.

But he is the best expert in my opinion on China in the United States of America. However, I might be a little prejudice because he was the

dean at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government when I matriculated there. I think that's what I did there, Dean.

Didn't I matriculate there?

You did, but you also graduated, yes.

I know, I graduated.

I think you guys really rue the day you ever accept.

It's coming in and graduates going out.

Yeah.

You rue the day you accepted me, though. Not at all.

So the Dean wrote a book, which I read called Destin for War, it's not in 2017, but

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