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Now to my conversation with Gerard Scarpey.

So when you're, I'm so curious, it being your first experience in beauty school and you start getting

into it, was it, was it what you expected? Were there any things that you didn't like about it?

It was ridiculous. I mean, it was a horrible experience. I didn't even graduate. I dropped out and

ended up. Luckily, I had some friends along the way who

were in the same school as me, and they got me a chance to be an apprentice at a salon in downtown

Manhattan. And I was able to get a barbering license rather than a cosmetology license

because it was just more practical. But yeah, I mean,

it just, it was a time before big beauty brands were interested in cosmetology school. And it was

just kind of, you know, old washed up hairdressers as teachers and classrooms full of degenerates that, you know,

I don't know what they were looking for in life.

There was fights every single day.

No, come on.

What do you mean?

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