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Smashing Security

High-speed train hacks and homicidal lawnmowers

Smashing Security

Graham Cluley

Technology, News, Tech News

4.7579 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

A 23-year-old radio enthusiast spent £300 on a piece of kit from the internet, and used it to bring four packed high-speed trains to a screeching halt. His defence in court? Possibly the most creative excuse we've heard all year.

Meanwhile, owners of $4,000 robot lawnmowers are discovering that their gadget can be hijacked over the internet, redirected at journalists who foolishly lie down in front of it, and used to harvest Wi-Fi passwords, email addresses, and GPS coordinates. Change the default password? Sure - until the next firmware update silently resets it back.

Plus - don't miss our featured interview with XBOW's Brendan Dolan-Gavitt about how AI is transforming penetration testing.

All this and more in episode 468 of the "Smashing Security" podcast with cybersecurity expert and keynote speaker Graham Cluley, and special guest Geoff White.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Why am I tempting fate? Don't do this at home.

0:06.1

Oh, oh yeah. No, that's not comfortable. That is not comfortable.

0:10.2

Smashing Security, Episode 468, high-speed train hacks and homicidal lawnmowers, with Graham Cluley and special guest Jeff White.

0:30.3

Hello, hello, and welcome to Smashing Security episode 468. My name's Graham Cluley.

0:34.5

Hi, and I'm Jeff White.

0:35.7

Jeff, welcome back to the show. Always a pleasure to have you on.

0:40.2

Of course, our listeners know you well from your books, your podcasts.

0:45.8

The Lazarus Heist is probably the most famous one, isn't it?

0:48.7

Have you got anything else bubbling away, waiting to surprise us?

0:52.5

There is going to be, I think I can talk about this. Yes,

0:56.8

no, I can talk about this because we trailed it. There's going to be a new season of the Lazarus Heist.

1:00.7

Fantastic. Which the BBC has renamed Cyberhack. The problem we had was it was called the Lazarus Heist

1:07.6

because, as some of you listeners will know, it's about the Lazarus Group, the famous North Korean elite hacking team.

1:13.0

And so, obviously, the podcast was about that. But the BBC and all of us really wanted to do things other than North Korea. And so I think the challenge was, well, how do we sort of do that? So they renamed it, basically, was the end result. So Joe Tidy, the great Joe T, with another BBC journalist called Sarah Rainsford, did a series about the Zeus gang and about a guy called Maximia Jacobetz. That was sort of series kind of three, basically, Lazarus Highs. We are doing series four, which is going to be out, think early July, late June, early July, but if people subscribe to CyberHack, you can get it.

1:44.7

And I can't go into details of what we've got, but it's... It's juicy. It's juicy, isn't it? It is juicy. Yeah. Yeah, we've got some absolutely banging stuff. It's really great. Oh, I can't wait for it. Well, before we kick off, let's thank this week's wonderful sponsors, Expo, Opswatt and Vanta. We'll be hearing more about them later on in the podcast.

2:05.5

This week on Smashing Security.

2:07.9

We won't be talking about how open-source toolmaker Grafana Labs told hackers who demanded a ransom to get stuffed after they threatened to release code that is largely already public.

2:19.3

You'll hear no discussion of...

2:22.3

Oh, a man pled guilty to stealing hard drives containing unreleased tracks by music star Beyonce.

2:28.3

And we won't even mention...

2:31.3

How the gang behind the shy hallood worm have released its code as open source,

2:35.7

providing a blueprint for other attackers.

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