If we want advice on how to build a company or lead an organization or do big things, we

will read interviews or watch videos from the Titans of Industry and Leaders of Government.

We will turn to those who have already done it.

The question is, who do they turn to when they need advice and they're trying to figure

out their problems?

Well, they turn to Devesh Mackin.

Devesh is the founder of Iconic Capital, a wealth management and investment company with

over $80 billion under management.

And his clients are some of the richest, most powerful people in the world.

So I sat down with Devesh to find out the kind of advice he gives, the things he has learned

from these remarkable high-performing human beings, and most important, what we can learn

from him.

And the result is surprisingly human.

This is a bit of optimism.

To be frank, the reason I wanted to talk to you is because I absolutely love the way

you view the world.

And every time I talk to you, I learn something new, quite frankly, about how I should view

the world.

I just want to go on a journey with you and pick your brain about all kinds of random

subjects that may or may not be connected.

Now Simon, I love that.

I will tell you, one of my joys, especially of last year when you and I got to spend lots

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