Today's conversation is going to be with somebody who has some interesting experience. He's gone from

being a pilot of a very fascinating spy plane to building communities. And some fascinating stuff

has happened to him along the way. Welcome back to another episode of T-Rex Talk.

Today I have a guest with me.

Ray Simmons is his name, and we're going to talk about probably a whole host of things

because you have a fascinating book, which we should talk about, T-R-X, because T-R-X is a bookstore now, and also kind of a publisher.

We talk about books quite a bit, but also you have an interesting gun-related court case that you are in the middle of, somewhere in the midst of.

But you also have an interesting military career with some fascinating, fascinating stories from that.

So where would you like to start, where would you like to start our conversation?

Book, court case, spy pilot.

Where do you, where would you like to begin?

I don't know.

I guess we can start with the arrest and the court case.

You are in Iowa now.

Yep.

So this all took place in the good old conservative Midwest.

But can you break the story down for us?

Yeah, and that's a good point.

It really was surprising to me that it happened in the conservative Midwest.

And so this was January 6th in Iowa, and course, it was extremely cold weather.

It was like, I think it was below zero.

And I think we had about 15 inches of snow

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