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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

HIDEOUS CRIMES: DELPHI CHILD KILLER RICHARD ALLEN TO WALK FREE?

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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News, True Crime

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

First, the white van. Prosecutors claimed a white van spooked Allen before he could rape the girls.

Second, Ron Logan’s confession. Logan owned the property where Abby Williams and Libby German were killed. He lied to police about his alibi, gave reporters tours of the property, and pointed out where the girls were found. An FBI agent wrote that Logan’s physical build matched the “Bridge Guy” in the video taken from Libby’s phone, and his voice was “not inconsistent” with the person heard in the clip. Allen’s defense team claims Logan confessed to killing the girls while in prison on a probation violation.

Third, Allen’s prison transfer. His attorneys argue that Carroll County Circuit Judge Benjamin Diener, who approved the search warrant for Allen’s home, helped Sheriff Leazenby draft the safekeeping order and should have recused himself.

They claim Allen had the right for another judge to review and issue the safekeeping order and an “absolute right” to refuse transfer into state custody. Because the order was never served to Allen or his attorney, Brett Gibson, they were unable to challenge it. Allen’s lawyers argue the state violated his constitutional rights under the Sixth and Fourteenth Amendments.

Lastly, a reported connection involving a pair of headphones. At trial, defense expert Stacy Eldridge testified that someone appeared to have plugged headphones into Libby’s phone at 5:44 p.m. on February 13 and removed them at 10:32 p.m. the same day. This contradicted the state’s timeline.

The state’s phone expert, ISP 1st Sgt. Chris Cecil, testified after conducting a Google search that dirt or water damage could have caused the logged activity. The defense argues they had no opportunity to counter this claim. Eldridge testified she was “unaware of any scientific or technological research suggesting that water or dirt damage to an iPhone 6s would cause the phone to inaccurately log wired headphones in or out.” Since the state never argued Allen returned to the crime scene, the defense claims that if a jury accepted Eldridge’s analysis, the state’s “narrative is impossible.

Joining Nancy Grace today: 

  • Greg Morse – Partner at the law firm of King Morse, PLLC. Current CJA counsel (Southern District of Florida), Former West Palm Beach Public Defender’s Office. Author: “The Untested” found on Amazon
  • Dr. Bethany Marshall – Author: “Deal Breaker,”  featured in hit show: “Paris in Love” on Peacock https://www.drbethanymarshall.com/ , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
  • Sheryl McCollum – Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder & Host of “Zone 7;” X: @149Zone7
  • Bill Daly – Former FBI Investigator and Forensic Photography, Security Expert 
  • Scott Eicher – A founding member of the FBI’s Cellular Analysis Survey Team (C.A.S.T); Historical Cellular Analysis Expert; Former FBI agent of 22 years; Former Police Officer and Homicide Detective with Norfolk Virginia Police Dept. having served 12 years; Currently with Precision Cellular Analysis handling Criminal, Defense and Civil case
  • Joe Scott Morgan – Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, “Blood Beneath My Feet,” and Host: “Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;” Twitter/X: @JoScottForensic
  • Susan Hendricks – Journalist, Author: “Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi’;” IG: @susan_hendricks X @SusanHendicks

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:07.0

Hideous crimes. The convicted Delphi Child Killer, Richard Allen, to walk free? Is that even possible?

0:19.9

I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. Thank you for being with us.

0:24.1

We also know by 3 o'clock, nobody's hearing them. They're nobody's screaming. Nobody's running.

0:31.6

Nobody's calling on their phones. Again, this was a very fast deal. And y'all, here's the reality.

0:38.3

Most children that are going to be murdered are murdered in the first three hours.

0:43.3

That's right.

0:46.3

Convicted child killer.

0:48.3

A jury said he murdered Abby and Libby.

0:53.3

Their bodies found practically drained of blood in a remote area near a trestle bridge.

1:02.0

He was convicted and now he is back in court citing new evidence that demands a new trial.

1:10.7

How is this possible? Well, the first thing. new evidence that demands a new trial.

1:12.6

How is this possible?

1:22.8

Well, the first thing he is claiming is all about a guy named Ron Logan.

1:23.9

Listen.

1:29.1

What other names mentioned throughout this long period of time before anyone was in custody?

1:34.7

Daniel Nations, Paul Etter, James Chadwell, Keating Klein, Tony Klein, and of course Ron Logan.

1:42.1

There were two searches of his property, too, and he was never arrested or charged with the crime. Out of all the suspects, the POIs, persons of interest that police sheriffs investigated,

1:49.0

what's different about Ron Logan and now Richard Allen comes into court with his fleet of

1:56.6

lawyers demanding to be set free or in the alternative any trial because of Ron Logan and three

2:04.6

other points. So what's so special about Ron Logan? Listen. Connie Dilman is the ex-girlfriend of

2:10.3

Ron Logan. Their six-year relationship had come to an end by the time of the Delphi murders.

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