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I'm your host Jamie and I'm so glad you're here each week on this show

I invite a friend to join me and we chat about the big things in life the little things in life and everything in between

Hey friends and welcome to this Friday episode of the happy hour

I'm your host Jamie and I'm glad you're joining us today no matter what you're doing if you're if you're driving on the road trip or you're

You're out on a walk or your kids are napping or you're doing dishes or I don't know

Maybe you're supposed to be doing something else, but you're joining me. I just want to say I'm glad you're here

Thanks for showing up. We have a really great show today. My friend John on we check out is here

I just call him John O

He's here in Austin in studio talking about his newest project we go on finding purpose in all of life sorrows and

Joy's I'm just going to tell you what I said about the book

Here's what I said I said John shows us throughout the book with his own personal stories of tragedy and triumph

How we as followers of Jesus can experience both sorrow and joy simultaneously

God's word is the ultimate solid rock for all of us to stand on in times of uncertainty and this book points us to that rock

That will never fail us or let us down

That joy and sorrow holding hands is so great in this interview today John talks about how we can be people of hope and people of honesty

All it wants and they intersect and it is beautiful. You know the fun part about this conversation is that John was in studio

And at the beginning we started just reminiscing and realized we're from the same city in the same area

And we know some of the same people it's a fun conversation

You feel like you're with friends at dinner and they knew each other before one of the things I was really looking forward to talking to John about was

The infertility path that him and his wife would walk down and you know we hear that conversation a lot from women and

John has some profound things to say about it and I was really grateful for his vulnerability

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