Hey friends and welcome to the happy hour with Jamie Ivy Podcast.

I'm your host Jamie and I'm so glad you're here.

Each week on this show I invite a friend to join me and we chat about the big things in life,

the little things in life and everything in between.

Hey friends welcome to our show today.

I am super excited about today's guest and she's actually a return guest.

Nicole Zazowski is back and she was on the show in September of 2018, episode number 212.

And here we are all the way, episode number 475.

Crazy.

Nicole had a book that released actually yesterday.

It's called What If It's Wonderful, An Invitation to Release Your Fierce.

Choose Joy and Find the Courage to Celebrate.

And let me tell you, there were two moments in our conversation today that she got me

so thinking about what she was saying and I can't stop thinking about it.

It is about Joy and Moses.

I'll leave you with that and you're going to find out in the end of you those two conversation pieces that we talked about.

But this book What If It's Wonderful is really inviting you as a reader and the listener

to practice a spiritual discipline of celebration.

And that might be the first time you've heard that because honestly, this conversation was one of the first times I've had this conversation.

So many of us are fearful of rejoicing and celebrating for lots of reasons.

In fact, she breaks us all down in the conversation today and she's a marriage and family therapist.

And so whenever she talks, she just want to lean in and listen.

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