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Honestly with Bari Weiss

Hezbollah's Pagers and Walkie-Talkies Explode. Now What?

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

News, Society & Culture

4.6 • 7.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

On Tuesday, hundreds of encrypted pagers in Lebanon and Syria began exploding at the same time. Lebanon’s health minister said Tuesday that at least nine people were killed and 2,800 were injured. The tiny country’s hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from burn wounds, blown-up hands, and groin injuries. The pagers belonged to members of the Iran-backed terrorist group Hezbollah. Then, just 24 hours later, a second wave of thousands more explosions again went off simultaneously in Lebanon: This time not only pagers, but also walkie-talkies all belonging to Hezbollah terrorists. It was the stuff of spy movies—an incredibly sophisticated and precise operation unlike anything we’ve seen before. And while Israel has not officially taken responsibility, this kind of imaginative sabotage has Mossad written all over it. Hezbollah has vowed retaliation against Israel. This comes after almost a year of Hezbollah firing rockets into northern Israel. Since October 7, the constant barrage of attacks has forced some 100,000 Israelis to flee their homes on Israel’s northern border. Nearly a year later, they still cannot return. All of this, of course, is part of a much larger, more dangerous game being played across the region—Israel’s shadow war with Iran, its most formidable adversary. For years, Israel and Iran have avoided direct conflict, preferring to fight through Iran’s regional surrogates—Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, the Houthis in Yemen. All of them fueled by Iranian money, weapons, and ideology. Will Israel’s alleged tactical brilliance this week—jokingly dubbed as Operation Below the Belt on social media—deter Hezbollah from continuing to launch the missiles and rockets into Israel that make it impossible for Israeli citizens to return home? Or is military intervention—a ground invasion—inevitable? As Eli Lake wrote in The Free Press today, “Israel cannot defeat its enemies by waging war only in the shadows.” Today, I sat down with journalist and Pulitzer Prize finalist Dexter Filkins to talk about all of it. Dexter has been covering wars in the Middle East for decades for The New York Times and The New Yorker, and has been called “the premier combat journalist of his generation.” In our conversation, we discussed the state of the war, political divisions within Lebanon, Iran’s nuclear program, the viability of a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians, and the difficulties for the United States of disengaging from Middle East conflicts. If you liked what you heard from Honestly, the best way to support us is to go to TheFP.com and become a Free Press subscriber today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

From the free press, this is honestly.

0:03.4

I'm Michael Moynihan.

0:04.8

On Tuesday, hundreds of encrypted pagers in Lebanon and Syria began exploding at the same time.

0:14.0

Lebanon's health minister said Tuesday

0:17.0

that at least eight people have been killed,

0:19.0

and 2,700 were injured.

0:22.0

The country's hospitals were overwhelmed with patients. 2,700 were injured.

0:22.9

The country's hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from burn wounds, blown off

0:27.4

hands, and groin injuries.

0:30.5

The pagers belong to members of the Iran-backed terrorist group Hezbollah.

0:35.0

Then, just 24 hours later, a second wave of thousands more explosions again went off simultaneously in Lebanon, this time not only pagers, but also transmitters, cell phones, and other devices, even door intercoms, all belonging to Hezbollah terrorists.

0:53.0

It was a stuff of a spy movie, an incredibly sophisticated and precise operation,

0:58.0

unlike anything we've seen before.

1:00.0

While Israel has not officially taken responsibility, this kind of imaginative sabotage has the

1:06.0

Masad written all over it.

1:09.0

Hezbollah has vowed retaliation against Israel. This comes after almost a year of Hezbollah firing rockets into Northern

1:16.3

Israel. Since October 7th, the constant barrage of attacks has forced some 100,000 Israelis to flee their homes on Israel's northern border.

1:27.0

Newly a year later, they still cannot return.

1:30.7

All of this, of course, is part of a much larger, much more dangerous game being played across the region.

1:37.0

Israel's Shadow War with Iran, its most formidable

1:43.4

for years Israel and Iran have avoided direct conflict.

1:46.2

Iran preferring to fight through its regional surrogates,

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