Hertling and Kristol on Venezuela, Tensions in Europe, and a Pentagon Under Pressure
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🗓️ 16 November 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Pre-order "If I Don't Return" by Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling (Ret.)
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, Bill Crystal here from the Bullwork with Bullwork Sunday Live with Mark Hurtling. |
| 0:05.3 | My colleague now, very honored to have you abroad, I guess is the right to say that. |
| 0:10.8 | And Mark obviously retired as Lieutenant General in 2013. |
| 0:15.0 | It's become one of our leading military commentators, very useful and important for those of us who don't understand all these |
| 0:20.9 | matters of military affairs and national security. And so thanks for joining me today, Mark. |
| 0:27.1 | It's great to be with you. Always good on a Sunday morning to talk about these kind of things. |
| 0:31.0 | Yeah. Okay. Well, if it's not too upbeat, people can take a break and go watch a football game to cheer themselves up and then come back to worry about the real world. |
| 0:40.7 | We were talking before about your book, which I think was just announced that is available for free order. |
| 0:45.7 | Say a word about it because it is so interesting. |
| 0:48.0 | Yeah, I was kind of skeptical when the publisher said they wanted to start pre-orders in November. |
| 0:54.0 | And I said, boy, it's not going to be delivered until late February or early March. |
| 0:58.3 | And it says, well, it'll give us a feel for how it's going to do. |
| 1:00.4 | And it seems to be selling quite well, especially with the caveat that anyone that orders |
| 1:05.3 | the pre-order will get a signed copy. |
| 1:07.1 | So that's going to be fun. |
| 1:08.9 | I'm really excited about it. |
| 1:10.3 | It's a book that dives deeply into |
| 1:15.0 | reflections and a journal from Desert Storm. And then what happened over the next 35 years |
| 1:22.2 | that the Army adapted, the nation adapted. So it's, I was really glad our son kind of talked to |
| 1:29.3 | talk me into doing it. That's great. And the name and the name so people can. |
| 1:32.9 | The name is if I don't return a father's wartime journal. Wow. Well, that's great. I look |
| 1:38.6 | forward to a few order, but I haven't gotten it yet, but obviously no one's gotten it until February |
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