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Story Grid Writing Podcast

Hero, Victim and Perpetrator: The Must-Have Relationships in Your Story

Story Grid Writing Podcast

Shawn Coyne

Books, Language Learning, Authors, Education, Story, Publishing, Arts, Creativity, Writing, Fiction Writing

4.8 • 767 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Who is the Hero, Victim, and Perpetrator in your story? What are the relationships between each of them? The more vague or ungrounded each of these relationships are, the more the story will not read as believable. This is the focus Danielle, Leslie, and Shawn take on Tim's scene this week. Click here to read Tim's scene: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OQd5NxTcn2JLwrphueCX91A4wXN9BEQFBYwbyN7NJ1M/edit?usp=sharing To see the transcript of this episode, visit: https://storygrid.com/episode-275 — Get a free copy of our book Story Grid 101: The First Five Principles of the Story Grid Methodology: https://storygrid101.com This is Episode 275 of the Story Grid Podcast: https://storygrid.com/podcast

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. My name is Tim Graal. I'm the CEO of Storygrid, and I'm a

0:06.3

struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story that works. Joining me shortly is Sean

0:12.0

Coen. He's the creator and founder of Storygrid and a writer and editor with over 30 years of

0:17.6

experience. Along with him is Danielle Kiyoski, the chief academic officer of

0:22.7

Storygrid University, and Leslie Watts, the editor-in-chief of Storygrid Publishing. This week,

0:29.1

we're continuing the series talking about my drafts, rewriting the masterwork I Witness by Ed McBain.

0:41.6

So last week, we talked a lot about changes I need to make to the protagonists in the story, figuring out how to tell truth in fiction. And so I rewrote

0:47.7

the scene focused entirely on accomplishing that goal. And I'm happy to say I made some real

0:53.0

progress here. And so it was good to hear

0:55.9

Danielle and Leslie and Sean give some good feedback on what I've done. But we did talk about

1:01.6

several other things that I need to make changes on. The one that really stood out to me is this

1:07.6

kind of trinity of victim perpetrator and hero and getting really really clear especially

1:14.5

in crime but anytime you're looking at that triangle that trinity getting really really clear on the

1:20.3

relationships between all of those people in that triangle and how one of the issues with my scene

1:26.9

is that two of those relationships are not working well together.

1:30.8

So we talk a lot about that, and this is a thing that goes into so many stories.

1:35.6

So I think you're really going to enjoy it.

1:37.3

It helped me out a lot.

1:38.4

So I'm excited for you to learn alongside me.

1:40.9

So let's jump in and get started.

1:42.9

Okay.

1:43.3

So last time we went over the need to make

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