Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story

that works. Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne. He is the creator of Story Grid, the author of the

book Story Grid and an editor with over 25 years experience. In this episode,

we continue talking about the archetypes of the hero's journey. We go over some of the work

I've done on the mentor and the Threshold Guardian, and then we dive into the other archetypes

and look at some of the I still have to do there.

So it's a great episode, I think, as I'm working through this draft and looking at it from all

these different lenses, it's going to be really helpful for you to see how you can apply this

stuff to your own work in progress as well. So anyway, that's enough of this. Let's jump in and get started.

So, Sean, last week, we started walking through the Heroes Journey archetypes for my novel and

figuring out, you know, looking through the draft from that lens.

And it's just so interesting, it continues to be interesting to me how helpful this is to

to like force you to look at your draft.

I feel like it forces me to get out of like all of the woods have been working on this thing for over two years

and just very clearly say, all right, do we have a mentor? Is the mentor doing what he's supposed

to do? Do we have a threshold guarding? Is the threshold guarding doing what he's supposed to do?

You know, each of these things and just immediately seeing, you know, he's supposed to do, you know, each of these things and just immediately

seeing, you know, holes and issues with the story, which is so hard to do when you're just

trying to like look at this massive words and say, what's wrong with this? So my, we went,

we made it through a couple different archetypes, you know, one was the hero. We didn't,

we kind of moved past that because it's pretty clear who the hero is. But then we looked at the

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