Joining me right now, Herm Edwards. Most of you know, Herm from ESPN, he does a phenomenal job as an NFL analyst. Most of you know that he coached Jaden Daniels at Arizona State. Most of you know that Herm was a two-time NFL head coach with the Jets and the Chiefs in the 2000s. And at least some of you know

that he was one hell of a player with the Philadelphia Eagles in the 70s into the 80s and was

involved in one of the most famous plays in NFL history, the 1978 Miracle in the Meadowlands play. We may talk about that. We've

talked about that play with coach before. Maybe we'll come back to it at the end. But, you know,

it's interesting. I was looking in preparation for talking with you this afternoon at the years in which you were coaching in New York

and then in Kansas City.

And one of the things that is really interesting about your very first head coaching job

in New York with the Jets is it came in the 2001 season.

That, of course, was opening day September 9th, and then two days later,

9-11. And then when you guys came back with the rest of the league after a week off, following 9-11,

you faced Tom Brady, Bill Pelichick, and the New England Patriots in that week two,

which actually was week three that year because of 9-11,

but that was the year that they ended up winning their first Super Bowl.

So I want to ask you about what you thought of the Patriots here in a moment,

but what are your recollections about being a first-time head coach,

and after your first game as a coach, 9-11 happens?

Well, I can remember the cancellation of the games,

and then obviously our first game back,

we were going to play the New England Patriots in New England

in Foxborough.

And I can remember visiting with Coach Belichick on the sideline in the pregame.

We were just sitting there talking, you know, and there were a lot of flags, obviously,

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