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Hello, and welcome back to the Power Hour, the Heritage Foundation Center for Energy, Climate, and

Environment's podcast. I'm your host, Jack Spencer.

Producing our show today, we have Jack Haggerty back in the house. Jack, how are you? I'm doing well, Jack. How are you? Very good. I said your last name. It's not Haggerty, it's just Hagger. What is your last name? Correct me. It is Haggered, as in tired and worn. I'm sorry that I added the why there.

I even have this written out name, correct me. It is Haggard, as in tired and worn. I'm sorry that I added the why there.

I even have this written out in front of me.

I still said it wrong.

So I apologize for that.

Now, before we move on, I just want to say a quick word about John.

John's been our producer of this program since we started.

It wouldn't exist without him.

He makes it better.

But he won't be done anymore.

He retired.

He's going to spend some more time with his family.

And I miss you already, John.

And I hope you're listening.

If you are, enjoy your retirement man.

Stay in touch. And you can send me listening if you are. Enjoy your retirement man. Stay in touch.

And you can send me an email.

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