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First Things Podcast

Heritage and the Right

First Things Podcast

First Things

Religion & Spirituality

4.6699 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The editors discuss the troubles at Heritage, the conservative think tank whose president recently touched off a controversy by releasing a video statement in support of Tucker Carlson. The controversy pits generation against generation and faction against faction within the conservative movement. Rusty Reno and Dan Hitchens join Julia Yost.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the First Things podcast.

0:09.5

On this episode, we're talking the troubles at Heritage,

0:13.7

the conservative think tank whose president recently touched off a controversy

0:18.1

by releasing a video statement in support of Tucker Carlson.

0:21.8

The controversy pits Generation Against Generation and Faction Against Faction within the conservative

0:27.7

movement.

0:28.8

It's an occasion for asking, whither the right and whither America.

0:33.4

I'll talk with First Things editor Rusty Reno and Senior Editor Dan Hitchens.

0:37.9

I'm Senior Editor Julia Yost. Thanks for joining us.

0:44.5

So a brief timeline on Monday, October 27th, an episode of the Tucker Carlson show appeared,

0:51.9

featuring Nick Fuentes, a prominent influencer noted for his

0:56.0

neo-Nazi schick and his complaints against organized jury. On that episode, Tucker took the

1:01.8

opportunity to say that he dislikes Christian Zionists more than anybody and to condemn

1:07.5

Christian Zionism as a brain virus and a heresy.

1:11.7

Controversy ensued, as intended, no doubt.

1:15.1

Three days later, Kevin Roberts, president of heritage,

1:19.0

released a video statement to the effect that, contrary to rumor,

1:22.7

Tucker is and always will be in good standing with heritage and the conservative movement.

1:28.1

Roberts condemned criticism of Tucker as cancel culture, promoted by a venomous coalition,

1:34.2

bent on sewing division.

1:36.5

Backlash ensued.

1:37.7

In the following days, Roberts' chief of staff was reassigned.

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