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In the claustrophobic thriller, Heretic, two young Mormon missionaries knock on the door of a charming man played by Hugh Grant.

At first, he seems genuinely interested in learning more and invites them in.

But it quickly becomes clear that this guy doesn't actually want to have a good faith discussion.

In fact, he's hell-bent on

testing the limits of their faith by turning religion into a game, and the missionaries are his pawns.

I'm Ayesha Harris, and today we're talking about Heretic on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.

Joining me today is Kristen Meinsor. She co-hosts the Daily Fail, a podcast that does comedic close readings of the tabloids. Hey, Kristen. Hey, Ayesha. Great to be back. Great to have you. Also with us is Monica Castillo. She's a film critic and senior film programmer at the Jacob Burns Film Center. Hey, Monica. Hey, happy to be back as well. Yes. It's so great to have you both back. And I'm very, very excited to talk to you about this movie. That has a lot of things going on.

Heretic stars Sophie Thatcher and Chloe East as Sister Barnes and Sister Paxton, Mormon missionaries making the rounds of a Colorado suburb. Hugh Grant plays Mr. Reed, who invites

them into his home and insists his wife is in the kitchen baking up high. But after some time

spent chatting with him in his living room, the sisters still have yet to meet Mr. Reed's

supposed wife. And his expressed spiritual curiosity soon curels into something more sinister.

Is it blueberry pie?

It is blueberry pie.

I mean, my favorite.

Going back, can I ask, how did your father pass away?

I'm sorry, I should know.

Blueberry disease.

Okay, that's wonderful. Blueberry disease. Okay. That's wonderful.

Blueberry disease.

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