Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, June 4th, 2018. And I'm your host Kara Santa, and we have a really good one this week.

We're going to talk to preeminent, influential, incredibly talented science writer, Carl Zimmer about his new book but

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