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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Here's how America's next civil war could happen

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The prospect of a new Civil War in the United States is increasingly discussed as political turmoil rips through America. How could such a conflict actually break out? Rob Hutton is joined by The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future author Stephen Marche to discuss the terrifying new film Civil War – and how the reality could be even worse.     • “Civil wars when they come are the very worst things that can happen to a country. In England, the civil war demonstrated a level of brutality that is now unthinkable to us.” – Stephen Marche   • “It’s so dangerous right now, not because the people are inherently violent, but because for those people to get power, they need hatred to get them there.” – Stephen Marche    Buy The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too.    We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.    Support us on Patreon.      Written and presented by Rob Hutton. Producer: Eliza Davis Beard. Audio editor: Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson and artwork by James Parrett. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.5

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

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I loved going to college.

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It's good you can retrain and do something.

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after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello, welcome to the bunker. I'm Rob Hutton. What kind of American are you?

1:14.0

The most terrifying line in Alec Garland's new film Civil War

1:18.0

is uttered by an unnamed soldier holding a group of journalists at gunpoint.

1:22.0

They don't know how to answer or what answer will save their lives.

1:26.0

They don't even know which side this man is on.

1:29.0

The FT journalist Stephen Bush wrote this week that Civil War is like a Rorschach plot for audiences.

1:34.4

Those who see it as a film about politics think it doesn't make sense.

1:38.0

How of Texas and California formed an alliance?

1:40.6

But those who see it as a film about war think it's amazing.

1:44.0

When I reviewed it, I fell firmly into the latter camp.

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