Here, Right Matters...or Does It?: A Conversation with Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman

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Chris Cotnoir

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🗓️ 8 September 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman knew when he went into the Trump White House to work on the National Security Council that he may be asked to do things that were "awful but lawful." As a serving army officer in those cases he would be obligated to follow the orders of the Commander-in-Chief. But he also knew there was a line that he would not cross. He would not follow an unlawful order, he would not help even the president break the law. As a result of his conscience--which drew directly on his military experience and prior to that on the values inculcated in him by his family--the course of history was altered. Imagine what might have happened had Donald Trump gotten the government of Ukraine to help him smear candidate Joe Biden? Where would we be now? We discuss Vindman's story--told in his excellent new book, "Here, Right Matters"--with him in this special edition of the podcast. It's a compelling, candid conversation. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:41.0	and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.
0:47.0	Hello and welcome to another special edition of the podcast.
0:51.0	As you know, every so often, we here get to sit down with people
0:56.0	who have written important books.
0:58.0	Today, I'm very pleased to be able to do so with Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman,
1:04.0	who is the author of Hear, Write Matters, and American Story.
1:09.0	You, of course, know Colonel Vindman from his testimony before the Congress
1:14.0	in the first impeachment process for the former president.
1:18.0	Alex is joining us today from Kiev.
1:22.0	Hi, Alex. How are you?
1:24.0	Hey, David. How are you?
1:26.0	So I assume you're just on vacation in the Ukraine.
1:29.0	No, I don't make it here for vacation.
1:32.0	Ever one of these is oriented on some sort of a task.
1:37.0	My previous trips, obviously, were for work.
1:41.0	This one is also for work, but this is for my dissertation.
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