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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Here Come the Socialists

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

How far does Zohran Mamdani’s political approach and appeal carry beyond liberal strongholds in city centers? 


Guest: Perry Bacon, staff writer at The New Republic and host of the TNR show Right Now With Perry Bacon


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0:00.0

Do you remember when socialist was kind of a bad word?

0:15.4

Even if it wasn't bad, it was a word that demanded an explanation.

0:20.7

Like, it was only a decade ago that Bernie Sanders, who was running for president,

0:25.6

was compelled to deliver a speech at Georgetown University

0:29.9

and explain what socialism meant to him, as if it was shameful.

0:36.9

Well, we've come a long way.

0:39.9

Tonight, a political earthquake in New York sending a national message about voters eager for

0:44.9

change and focused on the rising cost of living.

0:48.5

Last week, New York City's socialist mayor, Zoran Mandani, helped carry three hardcore progressives, two of them described as socialists, through bruising primaries.

0:59.9

They will probably go on to Congress.

1:02.6

And these aren't the only socialists in the mix this year.

1:05.9

D.C.'s likely next mayor calls herself a socialist.

1:09.0

So does one of the two candidates vying to lead Los Angeles.

1:12.9

And David, the big question tonight is, will these results have a ripple effect come November?

1:17.4

And if so, who will benefit President Trump already trying to put his stamp on all of this branding

1:22.8

the Democratic winners as communists.

1:34.6

Perry Bacon, over at the New Republic, did not anticipate last week's sweep,

1:37.3

but he did see it as a kind of test.

1:44.0

Because my whole thing throughout this socialist, progressive revolution in the last 10 years has been, can the left candidates win

1:46.0

working class voters? Can they win African American voters? Can they win people without college

1:51.8

degrees? That's always been the big question. It looks like they did. Describe the reaction from

1:57.0

what we might call establishment Democrats to this win?

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