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It's Friday, July 11, 2014 from Slate It's the Gis on Mike Pesca.

So if you listen to our show yesterday, you heard my interview with Mike Sachs,

who interviewed tons of comedy writers and comedians for his book, Poking a Dead Frog.

And I was listening to another podcast that I like.

I do so. I sometimes commit pod don't you.

And it's called The Jeff Rubin, The Jeff Rubin Show.

It's a really good show. It's a deep dive.

He does our long conversations with guys who are memory experts.

By the way, we're having that guy on the show or he does a lot about comedy.

He likes board games. So he actually had Mike Sachs on.

And I thought it was a really good interview. It was in depth.

It was about the craft and a good supplementary interview.

I thought there were a lot of things in our interview that weren't in his,

even though his was over an hour long. But at one point, Mike Sachs said this on The Jeff Rubin Show.

With Davis Adaris, for the first book, I talked for over six hours.

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