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Before we begin, a quick content warning.

As you might have guessed from the title, this episode is difficult in places and it does talk about violent killing but it's also about an incredibly important campaign by some remarkable people so we really hope

that if you can you'll stick with it.

If you can, you sentence, but what does a life sentence actually mean? Well, compare the sentencing guidelines in England and Wales for these two cases.

In the first, a man stabs another man in the street in a fight between gangs.

The starting point for his minimum sentence is 25 years in prison. In the second case a man stabs his wife to death in a

frenzied attack with multiple stab wounds and extraordinary violence,

and he does it in front of their kids.

The minimum sentence for him is just 15 years,

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