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The Tudors Dynasty podcast.

So, hello and welcome back to the show. I'm your host, Dr. Emma, and today I'm joined by Michael

Hujuru from Who's a John Blank Projects. I know Michael personally, we've had some, we've shared

some coffees at the British Library and just I always have very insightful conversations with him.

So I wanted to bring him as a guest to the To Designers See podcast.

Hello, Michael, how are you?

I'm very well. I'm really excited to be here today to discuss my passion with another person who is passionate about his subjects.

I'm very much looking forward to it. The challenge will be trying to contain us both, but I'm looking forward to him.

Yes, yes.

We always have very, very, I said insightful conversations,

but we get intense about what we love.

And Michael is really passionate about black history,

and about specific person from the Tudor period,

which we will talk about.

But first I want to talk about, well, he was his most recent doctorate at the Open University.

Congratulations, Michael, on that.

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