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In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen

Henry Fernandez CEO of MSCI

In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen

Norges Bank Investment Management

In Good Company, Business, Norges Bank, Nicolai Tangen

4.8186 Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Nicolai Tangen talks to Henry Fernandez, CEO of MSCI, one of the largest index providers in the world. Nicolai and Henry discuss the power of index providers, and do they have too much influence? ESG investing and the current backlash in the US, will it remain? And Henry share many interesting personal stories about his upbringing and relationship with his father.

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0:00.0

Well, Henry, really a big thanks for taking the time to talk with us today.

0:13.3

It's a real pleasure having you on.

0:14.6

Thanks for having me.

0:15.9

When you established MSCI, indexing was a sleepy industry,

0:19.0

and your company was valued at $20 million.

0:22.3

Today, you are one of the world's largest providers of indices and valued at more than $40 billion.

0:28.1

So incredibly, incredibly impressive. And you're kind of the central connecting dot for global

0:34.7

investment industry. So really interesting to talk to you. But let's just start

0:39.6

with the very basics, because it's not so obvious to understand how you make money. So, first

0:45.5

of all, what's an index? So basically, an index is a collection or a basket of securities

0:52.9

that represent a particular market.

0:57.1

You know, that market can be Norway, can be Europe, can be the world, can be

1:02.4

emerging markets.

1:03.9

And the way we look at each security, the weight or the percentage of that security is

1:10.0

measured depending on its full market

1:13.3

capitalization with certain adjustments like float and the like.

1:17.9

So that's what these indices are all about.

1:20.5

We applied a couple of filters for investability and float and foreign ownership.

1:25.8

You know, there's some companies that have limitations on foreign ownership

1:29.6

and other companies that have a lot of securities, but, you know, they don't trade.

1:34.3

So we apply certain liquidity and investability filters, as we call them,

1:40.4

but that's what indices are all about.

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